John Arthur Winter Research

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Fantastic Firs

This is a place for the Fantastic Firs to make notes for our Olympian, John Arthur Winter (1924-2007)

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Use this section to add Family Search and Ancestry links to ancestors. Please make it clear how they relate to the Olympian.

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An Obituary for Winters. Craig-4574 01:37, 23 August 2023 (UTC).

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Notes from Susan Hautala

• In case you have trouble accessing it, like I did, here's the genealogically-relevant (mostly) paragraph from the obituary above:

Winter was born in Subiaco, Perth, to John Winter, a customs officer, and his wife, Mabel. He attended Subiaco school and Scotch College and frightened his parents and the neighbours by leaping over the clothes line in the family's backyard. Sometimes he fell in the dahlia patch.

• A profile article from 1948
• Another 1948 article that lists his parents as Mr. and Mrs. John Alexander Winter.

Info from Registry of Birth, Deaths and Marriages, Department of Justice, Western Australia Link to database (unless otherwise noted)

• Parents Marriage: John Alexander Winter and Mabel Phyllis Carse, Victoria Park, Western Australia, 1923; Registration #100326

• Mother, Mabel Phyllis Carse (Winter)

Birth: 1898, South Perth, Western Australia, father: William Macklin Carse, mother: Clara Wells, Registration #3151

Death: Mabel Phyllis Winter, d. 1980, age 82, Subiaco, Western Australia; father: William Macklin Carse, mother: Clara Wells, Registration #102096

Brother FamilySearch profile:

Birth, Edward William Carse, b. 1900, Victoria Park, Western Australia; father: William Macklin Carse, mother: Clara Wells, Registration #3563;

Also FamilySearch: "Australia Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981", citing Digital film/folder number: 007720552; FHL microfilm: 284856; Record number: 90; Packet letter: A, FamilySearch Record: XTD7-NY3, Edward William Carse born on 3 Feb 1900, son of Wm. Macklin Carse & Clara, in Victoria Park, Western Australia, Australia.

Marriage, Edward William Carse married Eleanor May Kynaston, Perth, 1921; Registration #100834; her birth: 1898, Leederville, Western Australia, father: William Kynaston, mother: Mary Williams, Registration #2562 (note: Ellen May rather than Eleanor May); her death: 1971, Shenton Park, Perth, Western Australia, age 72; Registration #101967

Death, Edward William Carse, d. 1968, Subiaco, Perth, Western Australia; father: William Macklin Carse, mother: Clara Wells; Registration #104353

Daughter, Beryl May Carse, b. abt 1927, d. 1927, age 5 mo, Perth, Perth, Western Australia; father: Edward William Carse; mother: Ellenor May Kynaston; Registration #101626

Infant, Unnamed Carse, d. 1929, stillborn, Perth, Perth, Western Australia; father: Edward William Carse; mother: Eleanor May Kynaston; Registration #101846

Maternal grandfather is on WT, William Macklin Carse

Death: William Macklin Carse, d. 1949, age 81, Maylands, Western Australia; father: Edward Carse, mother: Maria Jane Barlow; Registration #101985

Maternal grandmother is on WT, Clara Wells (Carse)

Death: Clara Carse, d. 1942, age 71, Subiaco, Perth, Western Australia; father: James Wells, mother: Mary Murray; Registration #101985

Clara's parents' marriage, 1869, James Wells and Mary Murray, Victoria, Australia; Births, Deaths and Marriages Index, Victoria, Registration #4220/1869

• Father, John Alexander Winter

Birth: February 1899 in Launceston, Tasmania, Australia. "Australia, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920", National Archives of Australia; Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia; B2455, First Australian Imperial Force Personnel Dossiers, 1914-1920, Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 60864 #371776, Name: John Alexander Winter; Age: 18; Birth Year: abt 1896; Birth Place: Launceston, Tasmania; Dossier Year Range: 1914-1920; Enlistment Place: Perth, Western Australia; Service Number: 7467; Mother: Mary Ada Winter; father: Charles Gideon Winter; British Born Subject.

Military Service: World War I, Australian Imperial Force, 11th Infantry Battalion, 25th Reinforcements: Winter, John Alexander, age 18, farm labourer, single, enrolled Nangeenan, W. A., mother: Mrs. M. A. Winter, c/o Capt. E. Weston, 212 Hammersley Road, Subiaco, Western Australia; embarkation date: 29 Jun 1917 Australian War Memorial, Link to record

Death: Winter, John Alexander, d. 1986, age 86, Nedlands, Western Australia; father: Charles Gideon Winter, mother: Mary Ada Sleightholm, Registration #102974

Sister: death, Frances Jean Gwenllian Winter, d. 1954, age 48, Subiaco, Perth, Western Australia; father: Charles Gideon Winter, mother: Mary Ada Sleightholm, Registration #100694

Brother:

birth, Charles Robert Winter, b. 13 Jul 1894, Patersonia, Launceston, Tasmania, FamilySearch Record: Q27M-58TZ FamilySearch Image: 3QSQ-G9CH-WQB3

death, Charles Robert Winter, d. 1966, age 71, Hollywood, Perth, Western Australia; father: Charles Gideon Winter, mother: Ada May Slightholme, Registration #101637

Brother:

birth, Noel Stephen Winter, b. 26 Jan 1897, Patersonia, Launceston, Tasmania, FamilySearch Record: Q27M-RNH2 FamilySearch Image: 3QS7-L9CH-46T

death, Noel Stephen Winter, d. 1970, age 73, Hollywood, Perth, Western Australia; father: Charles Gideon Winter, mother: Mary Ada Sleigholm, Registration #103741

Paternal grandfather, Charles Gideon Winter FamilySearch profile

Death: Winter, Charles Gideon, d. 1950, age 83, Busselton, Sussex, Western Australia; father: John Winter, mother: Frances Morris, Registration #6000029

Marriage: Charles Gideon Winter (26) and Ada Sleightholm (27), 18 Oct 1893, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia; in the presence of Robert and Margaret A. Sleightholm, FamilySearch Record: Q279-HJM7 FamilySearch Image: 3QS7-L9CH-C5V3

Paternal grandmother, Mary Ada Sleightholm (Winter) FamilySearch profile

Birth: Ada Sleightholm, b. 8 Feb1871, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia; father: Robert Sleightholm, mother: Jessie Laidlaw Sleightholm; FamilySearch Record: Q27M-VM9F FamilySearch Image: 3QSQ-G9CH-W8BR

Death: Ada Winter, d. 1945, age 74, Busselton, Sussex, Western Australia; father: Robert Sleightholm, mother: Jessie Laidlaw, Registration #6000024

Parents: Robert Alexander Sleightholm FamilySearch profile and Jessie Laidlaw FamilySearch profile

Marriage: 6 Mar 1858, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia; also father's occupation (stonemason); FamilySearch Record: Q279-Q6W5 FamilySearch Image: 3QS7-99CH-W4J8

11 children (including Ada) are on FamilySearch